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THE INTERVIEW


can be a helpful framework for people to examine their own prayer life, religious belief, and pastoral ministry, and to see how all of that is actually a response to God’s call. When we wrote that book, we connected a Sacrament to each aspect of discipleship. We also decided to include music and connect each [way] to one or two well-known Catholic hymns. Lex orandi, lex credendi—the way that we pray and sing about these ideas is formative. It’s not just like, “Oh, isn’t it neat that this song matches the Gospel for the day?” We are praying and taking things into our bodies in a different way when we sing, when we make music. [Kathleen and I] hoped that our book could be something that a


small group in a parish could use, or an RCIA class, or an adult formation class. It’s so important to get people to think about what we do in the liturgy. It’s deeply formative to who we are as Catholics, as followers of Christ. So much of my formation as a young Catholic was around music and liturgy. My piano teacher was one of our liturgists. My first job was as a pastoral musician in our parish, and I was also the pianist at a Christian Reformed church in our town. I got a whole liturgical, pastoral, and ecumenical formation through music. I have a huge heart for the formative power of liturgy and music. It’s so central to who we are as the Body of Christ. Tis is how we pray together.


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